[JPL] What with this "real jazz" label??????????

jazzrockworld rick at jazzrockworld.com
Fri Aug 11 22:24:20 EDT 2006

I hate to ask, but if there's such a thing as "Real Jazz" then what's "Fake

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.... how about "unhyphenated jazz"?


Actually, I agree.  It's just ....   jazz.   With so many co-opting  
the term, use it and enjoy the additional familiarity the word has  
gained recently.  But I think "jazz music" sounds redundant.   How  
about you?

Jim Wilke
Jazz After Hours, PRI    (Jazz Music After Hours?  - I don't think so)

On Aug 11, 2006, at 3:32 PM, Arturo wrote:

> I seems to be that there is no need to use a term that lately has been 
> appearing with more frequency in jazz circles, I am talking about 
> "real jazz", that is redundancy in my estimation. It is either jazz or 
> it is not, if its jazz it is real, and if it is not jazz then it is 
> not. I suppose this is a term in response to the smoove j word, let's 
> not lower ourselves to that level. We all know that the smooth formats 
> are not jazz, it is only a marketing term so why countermove with a 
> silly adjective? There are enough labels within the genre of jazz, why 
> create another one that has no substance?


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