[JPL] Ray & Basie

Eric Jackson eric-jackson at comcast.net
Thu Aug 31 13:05:48 EDT 2006


On Thursday 31 August 2006 12:18, Jackson, Bobby wrote:

> Hi Ed and Jae,
>
> As much as I agree with you about cut and paste process, I can't help but
> think about Miles Davis producer Teo Macero with stacks of tapes he
> recorded of Miles and Co. cutting and pasting together the "Bitches Brew"
> masterpiece recording that influenced so much of the so-called fusion music
> of the seventies.  It is an exception to the rule of recording spontaneous
> music making, and it also keeps me on point that there are exceptions to
> every rule.
>
> Aloha,
>
> Bobby

I think what you said here Bobby is similar to what I was saying. If the 
musician and his or her trusted editor does the editing I'm not opposed to 
the idea. When others are doing it, it makes me uncomfortable.

I didn't like the Bill Laswell edits of Miles music simply because Miles 
wasn't involved. Would Miles have liked them? None of can answer that 
important question.

Eric Jackson
8 pm - mid Mon - Thurs
WGBH Boston
89.7 FM
www.wgbh.org/jazz


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> [mailto:jazzproglist-bounces at jazzweek.com] On Behalf Of Jae Sinnett Sent:
> Thursday, August 31, 2006 12:10 PM
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> Oh believe me Ed I didn't say that as a justification for what's being done
> with this project. I'm in agreement with you in that the cut and paste
> method of creating goes against every principle of artistic creation in my
> book. In jazz the beauty of sinking or swimming is that both are caught in
> the moment. It's a for the moment music and this is what makes the good so
> everlasting - when it happens. Jazz is the most sincere music I know of
> because of this truthfulness in how it's created. What's puzzling to me is
> that I can't help but believe there aren't "canned" projects on Ray that
> have yet to be released. What artist that has had that kind of longevity
> and visibility..... doesn't? I would bet there are many and at some point
> we will see and hear them so this makes this current move even more
> peculiar.
>
>   Jae Sinnett
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> In a message dated 8/31/2006 10:58:25 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> ron_gill at verizon.net writes:
>
> I think Jae's comment about the
> family of the decease having jurisdiction over the release of the product
> is to be considered.
> But, it does not necessarilly mean anything there either. Their judgement
> may
> not express the will of the artists...
>
> All the more reason to leave the material alone, in the first place. When
> first recorded, it's an artist's statement. When mucked around and morphed
> and tweaked and merged and tuned, it's become a commercial oddity.
>
> Ed
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