[JPL] gender

Tom Mallison tomthejazzman at earthlink.net
Wed Nov 8 18:59:39 EST 2006


While reading the interesting and informative comments my mind drifted 
to the thought of a few years back.  Could you imagine this conservation 
taking place suggesting to Duke Ellington, Count Baise or Buddy Rich 
that they needed  more diversity (Color and Sex) in their bands?
ALOHA
TomtheJazzman

JanLeder at aol.com wrote:

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>In a message dated 11/8/2006 5:01:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
>MitchellFeldmanAssociates at Comcast.net writes:
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>The same  goes for gender -- not sure  
>what the make-up of the Lincoln Center  Jazz Orchestra is today but I  
>do know that Wynton has gotten grief  for not having a woman in the  
>core band (they already got into  trouble re: age discrimination and  
>racial discrimination.)  Of  cours the gender issue is not reserved to  
>jazz -- the venerable  Vienna Philharmonic is picketed every time it  
>appears at Carnegie  Hall for not having "enough" women.
>
>M 2  ¢
>
>Mitchell
>
>
>It's my understanding that the (American) classical orchestras, once  they 
>began using blind auditions, quickly became roughly 50% populated by  women.  
>Jazz has yet to do this, and I believe for this reason there still  exists 
>something of a glass ceiling for women in jazz.  The LCJO and other  professional 
>orchestras, both the black and the white ones I know (and I feel  sad that I 
>can even say that!) still rarely include women  instrumentalists.  I believe 
>it's different in the universities, but  I'm talking about professional groups 
>here.
> 
>I would venture to guess that blind auditions in jazz would produce  
>multi-racial groups with equal gender as well as age distribution.  Music  doesn't 
>know these differences, and most musicians I know really don't  care.  It's when 
>it comes time to market the music that those  things usually come into 
>consideration.  (My 2 cents~)
> 
>Jan Leder
>_www.janleder.info_ (http://www.janleder.info) 
>author, Women in Jazz: A Discography of Instrumentalists 1913-1968  
>(Greenwood Press 1985)
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