[JPL] Stephen Colbert disses John Zorn

Steve Hahn SHahn at kuat.org
Sun Sep 24 21:48:32 EDT 2006


I'm starting to think that many people are missing the point or are so
unfamiliar with Zorn's work that they can only speak from ignorance.
Zorn would never identify himself as a "jazz" artist; his musical world
view is much more encompassing than that. He does totally free improv
within very calculated structures... or very noisy and painful Japanese
punk metal... or film scores... or classically commissioned chamber
music... or brilliant Morricone tribute albums...or re-inventions of
klezmer music. Jazz is merely one reference point in his protean
vocabulary.

Steve Hahn/KUAZ





Greetings Group...

Interesting point, Bill!

But I also agree with Bobby Jackson to some extent -- i.e. Zorn gets  
no MAINSTREAM jazz airplay but he is very popular at college radio as  
are recordings by other artists on his label Tzadik.

Speaking of Tzadik -- my gripe with Zorn is how cheap he has been  
with said label -- only his own recordings get any type of promotion  
whereas I gather other artists whose CDs are released on Tzadik must  
not only pay for their own promotions but must also pay 50% of list  
price for any CDs they would want to use as promos making the cost in  
product and postage alone more than most artists can afford to pay  
not to mention a fee for PR or radio.

Maybe Zorn will use some of his $500K to promote the music of others  
on his label or at least to make it easier for them to promote their  
music themselves if they choose to do so.

That said even though I am promoting my new radio show on Georgia  
Public Broadcasting called "Jazz Without Borders" as being for people  
whose taste in jazz runs from Adderley to Zorn, not since Stanley  
Crouch got HIS MacArthur Grant have I scratched my head and wonder  
who makes the decisions there!  I would name dozens of artists I'd  
award such funds to before I got to Zorn.

Mitchell
[JPL] Stephen Colbert disses John Zorn

Bill Anschell billanschell at mindspring.com
Sun Sep 24 01:56:23 EDT 2006
Previous message: [JPL] Stephen Colbert disses John Zorn
Next message: [JPL] WWSP Jazzweek Playlist
Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]
Hmmm... Are people missing the fact that Colbert almost always means
the opposite of what he says?  I love the show, and it's all about
his particular brand of irony.  Whether talking about politics, art
or any other subject, he wears the reactionary persona like a set of
bad clothes and invites people to see right through it.  What I
thought was most interesting was that he went out of his way to name
both the cut and the album it was from.  I'll bet Zorn gets a huge
spike of interest from that segment, especially since Colbert's
audience is probably a relatively progressive set of viewers.

--Bill Anschell

Visit Bill Anschell's website at www.billanschell.com


 > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hoff, Robert"
 > <rhoff at mercyhurst.edu>
 > To: "Jazz Programmers Mailing List" <jazzproglist at jazzweek.com>;
 > "Jazz Programmers Mailing List" <jazzproglist at jazzweek.com>
 > Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 10:18 PM
 > Subject: RE: Re: [JPL] Stephen Colbert disses John Zorn
 >
 >
 > -------------------------------------------
 >
 > This week's sponsor:  JazzWeek Magazine
 >
 > -------------------------------------------
 >
 > The Jazz Programmers Mailing List is a free service provided by
 > JazzWeek.
 > For more information visit us at  http://www.jazzweek.com/jpl
 > To become a sponsor contact Devon Murphy
 > at devon at jazzweek.com or 866-453-6401 x3.
 >
 > -------------------------------------------
 > I'm sure we all recall how Roy Eldridge made similar comments about
 > Bird's music back in the day...
 >
 >
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: jazzproglist-bounces at jazzweek.com on behalf of Bobby Jackson
 > Sent: Sat 9/23/2006 9:38 PM
 > To: Jazz Programmers Mailing List
 > Subject: Re: Re: [JPL] Stephen Colbert disses John Zorn
 >
 > -------------------------------------------
 >
 > This week's sponsor:  JazzWeek Magazine
 >
 > -------------------------------------------
 >
 > The Jazz Programmers Mailing List is a free service provided by
 > JazzWeek.
 > For more information visit us at  http://www.jazzweek.com/jpl
 > To become a sponsor contact Devon Murphy
 > at devon at jazzweek.com or 866-453-6401 x3.
 >
 > -------------------------------------------
 > After viewing the video of Stephen Colbert dissing Zorn I can only
 > say that
 > the cut Colbert played personified the sound of a cat, a mouse, and
 > shrieking in a garbage can falling down a flight of carpeted stairs
 > after
 > swallowing balloons.  I couldn't agree with him more.  I actually
 > liked his
 > performance with Kareem Jabbar better but they still get NO airplay.
 >
 > Aloha,
 >
 > Bobby Jackson
 > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick McLaughlin"
 > <rick at rickmclaughlin.com>
 > To: "'Jazz Programmers Mailing List'" <jazzproglist at jazzweek.com>
 > Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 9:17 PM
 > Subject: RE: Re: [JPL] Stephen Colbert disses John Zorn
 >
 >
 >> -------------------------------------------
 >>
 >> This week's sponsor:  JazzWeek Magazine
 >>
 >> -------------------------------------------
 >>
 >> The Jazz Programmers Mailing List is a free service provided by
 >> JazzWeek.
 >> For more information visit us at  http://www.jazzweek.com/jpl
 >> To become a sponsor contact Devon Murphy
 >> at devon at jazzweek.com or 866-453-6401 x3.
 >>
 >> -------------------------------------------
 >> Hey Rob,
 >>
 >> Of course I am no authority on the radio play part, but I wanted
 >> to put in
 >> a
 >> vote for the Masada record Alef (which it totally unbelievable -  
Jae,
 >> check
 >> out Joey Baron's ride cymbal - completely dry, sounds like a  
freaking
 >> garbage can lid or something - but absolutely burning...).
 >>
 >> Also The Big Gundown unbelievable.
 >>
 >> Thanks and best,
 >>
 >> Rick McLaughlin
 >>
 >> -----Original Message-----
 >> From: jazzproglist-bounces at jazzweek.com
 >> [mailto:jazzproglist-bounces at jazzweek.com] On Behalf Of Hoff,  
Robert
 >> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 8:09 PM
 >> To: Jazz Programmers Mailing List; Jazz Programmers Mailing List
 >> Subject: RE: Re: [JPL] Stephen Colbert disses John Zorn
 >>
 >> -------------------------------------------
 >>
 >> This week's sponsor:  JazzWeek Magazine
 >>
 >> -------------------------------------------
 >>
 >> The Jazz Programmers Mailing List is a free service provided by
 >> JazzWeek.
 >> For more information visit us at  http://www.jazzweek.com/jpl To
 >> become a
 >> sponsor contact Devon Murphy at devon at jazzweek.com or  
866-453-6401
 >> x3.
 >>
 >> -------------------------------------------
 >> So, here's my question:  How often does Zorn get airplay on jazz
 >> radio?
 >> I've gotten positive response to his live Masada recordings and
 >> especially
 >> to Zorn's The Gift.
 >>
 >> Rob Hoff
 >> JazzFlight
 >> WQLN
 >> Erie, PA
 >>
 >>
 >> -----Original Message-----
 >> From: jazzproglist-bounces at jazzweek.com on behalf of Forrest  
Bryant
 >> Sent: Sat 9/23/2006 7:11 PM
 >> To: Jazz Programmers Mailing List
 >> Subject: Re: Re: [JPL] Stephen Colbert disses John Zorn
 >>
 >> -------------------------------------------
 >>
 >> This week's sponsor:  JazzWeek Magazine
 >>
 >> -------------------------------------------
 >>
 >> The Jazz Programmers Mailing List is a free service provided by
 >> JazzWeek.
 >> For more information visit us at  http://www.jazzweek.com/jpl To
 >> become a
 >> sponsor contact Devon Murphy at devon at jazzweek.com or  
866-453-6401
 >> x3.
 >>
 >> -------------------------------------------
 >> Also here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rmQK7rLOg8
 >>
 >> [FB]
 >>
 >>
 >>> -------------------------------------------
 >>> > Stephen Colbert on John Zorn's MacArther grant:
 >>> > http://www.comedycentral.com/motherload/index.jhtml? 
ml_video=75700
 >>>
 >>> We're sorry, but MotherLoad will only play on PCs with Windows  
XP or
 >>> 2000/SP4+.
 >>>
 >> -------------------------------------------
 >>
 >> This week's sponsor:  JazzWeek Magazine
 >>
 >> -------------------------------------------
 >>
 >> If you're a subscriber to the JPL and NOT a subscriber to the
 >> weekly PDF
 >> edition of JazzWeek, you're missing out! See the latest jazz,
 >> smooth jazz,
 >> college jazz and world music charts powered by Mediaguide, as  
well as
 >> interviews with artists, industry and radio.  Each issue also has
 >> reviews,
 >> listings of current releases and add dates, and music and industry
 >> news.
 >>
 >> Musicians, broadcasters, industry personnel, students and
 >> educators can
 >> subscribe free -- and paid subscribers can receive extra features
 >> and/or
 >> Wednesday delivery.
 >>
 >> Visit http://www.jazzweek.com/ to find out more.
 >>
 >> ALSO: Coming this fall -- an expanded JazzWeek website with enhanced
 >> features. Watch for it.
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 >>
 >> Send jazzproglist mailing list submissions to
 >> jazzproglist at jazzweek.com
 >>
 >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
 >> http://lists.jazzweek.com/mailman/listinfo/jazzproglist
 >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
 >> jazzproglist-request at jazzweek.com
 >>
 >> You can reach the person managing the list at
 >> jazzproglist-owner at jazzweek.com
 >>
 >> -------------------------------------------
 >>
 >> This week's sponsor:  JazzWeek Magazine
 >>
 >> -------------------------------------------
 >>
 >> If you're a subscriber to the JPL and NOT a subscriber to the
 >> weekly PDF
 >> edition of JazzWeek, you're missing out! See the latest jazz,
 >> smooth jazz,
 >> college jazz and world music charts powered by Mediaguide, as  
well as
 >> interviews with artists, industry and radio.  Each issue also has
 >> reviews,
 >> listings of current releases and add dates, and music and industry
 >> news.
 >>
 >> Musicians, broadcasters, industry personnel, students and
 >> educators can
 >> subscribe free -- and paid subscribers can receive extra features
 >> and/or
 >> Wednesday delivery.
 >>
 >> Visit http://www.jazzweek.com/ to find out more.
 >>
 >> ALSO: Coming this fall -- an expanded JazzWeek website with enhanced
 >> features. Watch for it.
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 >>
 >> Send jazzproglist mailing list submissions to
 >> jazzproglist at jazzweek.com
 >>
 >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
 >> http://lists.jazzweek.com/mailman/listinfo/jazzproglist
 >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
 >> jazzproglist-request at jazzweek.com
 >>
 >> You can reach the person managing the list at
 >> jazzproglist-owner at jazzweek.com
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> -------------------------------------------
 >>
 >> This week's sponsor:  JazzWeek Magazine
 >>
 >> -------------------------------------------
 >>
 >> If you're a subscriber to the JPL and NOT a subscriber to the
 >> weekly PDF
 >> edition of JazzWeek, you're missing out! See the latest jazz,
 >> smooth jazz,
 >> college jazz and world music charts powered by Mediaguide, as  
well as
 >> interviews with artists, industry and radio.  Each issue also has
 >> reviews,
 >> listings of current releases and add dates, and music and industry
 >> news.
 >>
 >> Musicians, broadcasters, industry personnel, students and
 >> educators can
 >> subscribe free -- and paid subscribers can receive extra features
 >> and/or
 >> Wednesday delivery.
 >>
 >> Visit http://www.jazzweek.com/ to find out more.
 >>
 >> ALSO: Coming this fall -- an expanded JazzWeek website with enhanced
 >> features. Watch for it.
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 >>
 >> Send jazzproglist mailing list submissions to
 >> jazzproglist at jazzweek.com
 >>
 >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
 >> http://lists.jazzweek.com/mailman/listinfo/jazzproglist
 >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
 >> jazzproglist-request at jazzweek.com
 >>
 >> You can reach the person managing the list at
 >> jazzproglist-owner at jazzweek.com
 >
 > -------------------------------------------
 >
 > This week's sponsor:  JazzWeek Magazine
 >
 > -------------------------------------------
 >
 > If you're a subscriber to the JPL and NOT a subscriber to the
 > weekly PDF edition of JazzWeek, you're missing out! See the latest
 > jazz, smooth jazz, college jazz and world music charts powered by
 > Mediaguide, as well as interviews with artists, industry and
 > radio.  Each issue also has reviews, listings of current releases
 > and add dates, and music and industry news.
 >
 > Musicians, broadcasters, industry personnel, students and educators
 > can subscribe free -- and paid subscribers can receive extra
 > features and/or Wednesday delivery.
 >
 > Visit http://www.jazzweek.com/ to find out more.
 >
 > ALSO: Coming this fall -- an expanded JazzWeek website with
 > enhanced features. Watch for it.
 >
 >
 >
 > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 >
 > Send jazzproglist mailing list submissions to
 > jazzproglist at jazzweek.com
 >
 > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
 > http://lists.jazzweek.com/mailman/listinfo/jazzproglist
 > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
 > jazzproglist-request at jazzweek.com
 >
 > You can reach the person managing the list at
 > jazzproglist-owner at jazzweek.com
 >
 > -------------------------------------------
 >
 > This week's sponsor:  JazzWeek Magazine
 >
 > -------------------------------------------
 >
 > If you're a subscriber to the JPL and NOT a subscriber to the
 > weekly PDF edition of JazzWeek, you're missing out! See the latest
 > jazz, smooth jazz, college jazz and world music charts powered by
 > Mediaguide, as well as interviews with artists, industry and
 > radio.  Each issue also has reviews, listings of current releases
 > and add dates, and music and industry news.
 >
 > Musicians, broadcasters, industry personnel, students and educators
 > can subscribe free -- and paid subscribers can receive extra
 > features and/or Wednesday delivery.
 >
 > Visit http://www.jazzweek.com/ to find out more.
 >
 > ALSO: Coming this fall -- an expanded JazzWeek website with
 > enhanced features. Watch for it.
 >
 >
 >
 > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 >
 > Send jazzproglist mailing list submissions to
 > jazzproglist at jazzweek.com
 >
 > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
 > http://lists.jazzweek.com/mailman/listinfo/jazzproglist
 > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
 > jazzproglist-request at jazzweek.com
 >
 > You can reach the person managing the list at
 > jazzproglist-owner at jazzweek.com
 > -------------------------------------------
 >
 > This week's sponsor:  JazzWeek Magazine
 >
 > -------------------------------------------
 >
 > If you're a subscriber to the JPL and NOT a subscriber to the
 > weekly PDF edition of JazzWeek, you're missing out! See the latest
 > jazz, smooth jazz, college jazz and world music charts powered by
 > Mediaguide, as well as interviews with artists, industry and
 > radio.  Each issue also has reviews, listings of current releases
 > and add dates, and music and industry news.
 >
 > Musicians, broadcasters, industry personnel, students and educators
 > can subscribe free -- and paid subscribers can receive extra
 > features and/or Wednesday delivery.
 >
 > Visit http://www.jazzweek.com/ to find out more.
 >
 > ALSO: Coming this fall -- an expanded JazzWeek website with
 > enhanced features. Watch for it.
 >
 >
 >
 > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 >
 > Send jazzproglist mailing list submissions to
 > 	jazzproglist at jazzweek.com
 >
 > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
 > 	http://lists.jazzweek.com/mailman/listinfo/jazzproglist
 > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
 > 	jazzproglist-request at jazzweek.com
 >
 > You can reach the person managing the list at
 > 	jazzproglist-owner at jazzweek.com

Previous message: [JPL] Stephen Colbert disses John Zorn
Next message: [JPL] WWSP Jazzweek Playlist
Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]
More information about the jazzproglist mailing list



____________________________________

MFA
Publicity, Radio Promotion & Consulting
For The International Jazz Community

Mitchell Feldman Associates
2059 Heckle Street
Augusta, GA 30904 / USA

Phone:	706.550.0263 (New!)
Cell:        303.641.4783
Email:	MitchellFeldmanAssociates at Comcast.net



-------------------------------------------

This week's sponsor:  JazzWeek Magazine

-------------------------------------------

If you're a subscriber to the JPL and NOT a subscriber to the weekly PDF
edition of JazzWeek, you're missing out! See the latest jazz, smooth
jazz,
college jazz and world music charts powered by Mediaguide, as well as
interviews with artists, industry and radio.  Each issue also has
reviews,
listings of current releases and add dates, and music and industry news.

Musicians, broadcasters, industry personnel, students and educators can
subscribe free -- and paid subscribers can receive extra features and/or
Wednesday delivery.

Visit http://www.jazzweek.com/ to find out more.

ALSO: Coming this fall -- an expanded JazzWeek website with enhanced
features. Watch for it.



+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Send jazzproglist mailing list submissions to
	jazzproglist at jazzweek.com

To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
	http://lists.jazzweek.com/mailman/listinfo/jazzproglist
or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
	jazzproglist-request at jazzweek.com

You can reach the person managing the list at
	jazzproglist-owner at jazzweek.com



More information about the jazzproglist mailing list