[JPL] Stephen Colbert disses John Zorn

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Sun Sep 24 22:53:22 EDT 2006


Steve, 

I also think people are forgetting the power of the "soundbite".  Colbert (or anyone, really) could play a 10 second snippet from Ornette Coleman's "Free Jazz", Coltrane's "Ascension", Ayler's "Spiritual Unity", or Miles' "On The Corner" and if appropriately chosen it could sound extraordinarily harsh to the unsuspecting ear.  Yet, these are generally regarded as classic recordings.  The "50th Birthday Celebration" CDs by Zorn vary in genre, but the jazz volumes (especially the Electric Masada) should be listened to by anyone with even a passing interest in the evolving state of jazz in the 21st century.

- Eric "Flash" Flashner
KRFC, Fort Collins

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> I'm starting to think that many people are missing the point or are so
> unfamiliar with Zorn's work that they can only speak from ignorance.
> Zorn would never identify himself as a "jazz" artist; his musical world
> view is much more encompassing than that. He does totally free improv
> within very calculated structures... or very noisy and painful Japanese
> punk metal... or film scores... or classically commissioned chamber
> music... or brilliant Morricone tribute albums...or re-inventions of
> klezmer music. Jazz is merely one reference point in his protean
> vocabulary.
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> Interesting point, Bill!
> 
> But I also agree with Bobby Jackson to some extent -- i.e. Zorn gets  
> no MAINSTREAM jazz airplay but he is very popular at college radio as  
> are recordings by other artists on his label Tzadik.
> 
> Speaking of Tzadik -- my gripe with Zorn is how cheap he has been  
> with said label -- only his own recordings get any type of promotion  
> whereas I gather other artists whose CDs are released on Tzadik must  
> not only pay for their own promotions but must also pay 50% of list  
> price for any CDs they would want to use as promos making the cost in  
> product and postage alone more than most artists can afford to pay  
> not to mention a fee for PR or radio.
> 
> Maybe Zorn will use some of his $500K to promote the music of others  
> on his label or at least to make it easier for them to promote their  
> music themselves if they choose to do so.
> 
> That said even though I am promoting my new radio show on Georgia  
> Public Broadcasting called "Jazz Without Borders" as being for people  
> whose taste in jazz runs from Adderley to Zorn, not since Stanley  
> Crouch got HIS MacArthur Grant have I scratched my head and wonder  
> who makes the decisions there!  I would name dozens of artists I'd  
> award such funds to before I got to Zorn.
> 
> Mitchell
> [JPL] Stephen Colbert disses John Zorn
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> Bill Anschell billanschell at mindspring.com
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> Hmmm... Are people missing the fact that Colbert almost always means
> the opposite of what he says?  I love the show, and it's all about
> his particular brand of irony.  Whether talking about politics, art
> or any other subject, he wears the reactionary persona like a set of
> bad clothes and invites people to see right through it.  What I
> thought was most interesting was that he went out of his way to name
> both the cut and the album it was from.  I'll bet Zorn gets a huge
> spike of interest from that segment, especially since Colbert's
> audience is probably a relatively progressive set of viewers.
> 
> --Bill Anschell
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>  > I'm sure we all recall how Roy Eldridge made similar comments about
>  > Bird's music back in the day...
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>  > After viewing the video of Stephen Colbert dissing Zorn I can only
>  > say that
>  > the cut Colbert played personified the sound of a cat, a mouse, and
>  > shrieking in a garbage can falling down a flight of carpeted stairs
>  > after
>  > swallowing balloons.  I couldn't agree with him more.  I actually
>  > liked his
>  > performance with Kareem Jabbar better but they still get NO airplay.
>  >
>  > Aloha,
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>  >> Hey Rob,
>  >>
>  >> Of course I am no authority on the radio play part, but I wanted
>  >> to put in
>  >> a
>  >> vote for the Masada record Alef (which it totally unbelievable -  
> Jae,
>  >> check
>  >> out Joey Baron's ride cymbal - completely dry, sounds like a  
> freaking
>  >> garbage can lid or something - but absolutely burning...).
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> Robert
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>  >> So, here's my question:  How often does Zorn get airplay on jazz
>  >> radio?
>  >> I've gotten positive response to his live Masada recordings and
>  >> especially
>  >> to Zorn's The Gift.
>  >>
>  >> Rob Hoff
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>  >> Also here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rmQK7rLOg8
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>  >>> > Stephen Colbert on John Zorn's MacArther grant:
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