[JPL] Wynton/ ABC "This Week

Bobby Jackson ftapache1 at sbcglobal.net
Sun Mar 4 00:30:43 EST 2007


Louis X,

It's obvious you don't understand my point. Perhaps many of you don't. 
Again, let me try to state this clearly.   This is not a matter of 
resentment.  This is a matter of sharing the wealth and having other points 
of view put jazz into the limelight as well.  Read my lips, er, uh 
E-MAIL.....I don't resent Wynton.  I am a huge fan and I appreciate Wynton 
very much.  I applaud and stand WITH Wynton but there are others that could 
probably be more effective in terms of getting jazz a higher profile in the 
public eye.  Wynton is such an obvious choice to yield to but it is an old 
tactic.  It is passe and ultimately not moving more people to our fold.   It 
is not working.  We continue to lose ground.     Jazz @ Lincoln Center is 
feeling the pinch too quiet as it's kept.  I've spoken to Wynton many times 
aover the years and he's disparaged so-called electronic fusion music.  He 
called the electric bass not a real instrument but, a toy.  He said this to 
me DIRECTLY in a pointed conversation.  I never forgot it.  Today people are 
playing "electric fusion" in the presenting stages of Jazz @ Lincoln Center 
and musicians such as Marcus Miller have a place in that hall to showcase 
their music.  I KNOW Wynton as artistic director didn't have that kind of 
programming in mind when he first got those doors to open.  I think he has 
learned that you've got to expand your audience to keep those doors open 
because his personal vision is not enough to keep those doors open and 
people paying.  We're all suffering in one way or another here.  I'm 
digressing a bit from my original point here but it's all related in one way 
or another.

As I pointed out in my first email on the subject, WHO OUTSIDE of the jazz 
canon.....

1) has an iconic and recognizable name
2) loves jazz
3) is charasmatic enough to move people who are not inclined to pay our jazz 
world any attention, and get them to make it an important part of their 
world too.

It will take someone outside of the jazz world to get this boulder rolling 
back into the consciousness of mainstream America because jazz is not as 
popular in mainstream America as we think it is or would like it to be.  By 
and large we live in a hip hop world. That is a sober truth.  Just turn on 
your TV or radio; go to the movies.  The signposts are everywhere.

Louis X, why don't you see the writing on the wall?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <louisx at verizon.net>
To: "Jazz Programmers Mailing List" <jazzproglist at jazzweek.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JPL] Wynton/ ABC "This Week


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> Can someone please explain to me what justifies the resentment of Wynton? 
> Sure, I'm disgusted with the media's fawning over him because there are so 
> many others worthy of the same publicity, but as far as blaming him, I 
> just don't see it. He's only taking advantage of the opportunities that 
> are at his disposal, which is understandable and smart. It would be 
> foolish for anyone to throw them away. I haven't seen Wynton exclude 
> anyone.  Does someone on this list know otherwise? And Jazz At Lincoln 
> Center has a lot of exposure because of him, which is good for New York 
> and good for jazz worldwide.  If you have suggestions for him regarding 
> how he runs JALC, then write to him.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bobby Jackson" <ftapache1 at sbcglobal.net>
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> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 10:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [JPL] Wynton/ ABC "This Week
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>> I know Wynton, I love Wynton and he's been good for jazz BUT I also think 
>> jazz has benefitted him more than he has benefitted jazz.  Over exposure 
>> is the key element here.  Many musicians have said this for years and 
>> many are resentful.  In 2007 it is the same story yesterday.  The litmus 
>> test is this;  is jazz in a better position today for all of his efforts? 
>> In the world of academia we are thriving. Record sales are dragging all 
>> over but especially in jazz.   In the world  of radio and television at 
>> BEST we're just treading  water.  At worse we're not on the air in many 
>> markets and losing precious hours of programming in many markets. While 
>> we're treading water we are also treading across the same ole paradigms 
>> that we've moved in for the past twenty-five years with one difference. 
>> There's less jazz on both the radio and on major television specials such 
>> as the Grammy's and Oscars, etc.  I'm not disparaging Wynton's efforts 
>> which for anyone have been no less than herculean BUT....he's still only 
>> one voice in many qualified voices that could speak about our music to 
>> the majority population.
>>
>> When Ed Bradley passed away and left a void as host of Jazz From Lincoln 
>> Center I thought it was absolutely insane and absurd that Wynton was 
>> chosen to succeed him as host.  Could we have been more imaginative??? 
>> Enough already!  In a time when our numbers are dwindling, a little 
>> calculated risk taking on the part of NPR would have been better than to 
>> plow the same field in the same way.  What a disservice!!  I think our 
>> audience would have been better served to have someone who interfaces 
>> with a broader range of Americans to host it instead.  Someone with a 
>> name, love of the music and articulate such as Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Bill 
>> Clinton or Clint Eastwood. These are household names that everyone knows. 
>> Guru would have been a better choice particularly with his reputation in 
>> the hip hop community as well as his relationship with Dr. Donald Byrd 
>> and Jazzamatazz.  Will-I-Am of the Black Eyed Peas, Prince, Denzel 
>> Washington, Chaka Khan or Angela Bassett.  Harry Connick Jr. would have 
>> been better. There are many people who could fit the bill.  Perhaps 
>> Wynton might consider (If he hasn't already tried) directing the media or 
>> these powers that be to others that could speak equally as well as him or 
>> better on behalf of the music.  Wynton is not to blame but he could also 
>> step up and advocate for other spokes persons.  It would make a 
>> difference.
>>
>> I'm just curious and need to ask each JPL'er this question?  Who do you 
>> think could possibly fit the bill as an alternative spokes person or 
>> syndicated radio host for this music?  Someone that would also generate 
>> interest in the majority population other than a jazz oriented 
>> personality?
>>
>> Aloha,
>>
>> Bobby Jackson
>> WCPN-FM
>> Cleveland, OH
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jae Sinnett" <jaejazz at yahoo.com>
>> To: "Jazz Programmers Mailing List" <jazzproglist at jazzweek.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 4:25 PM
>> Subject: [JPL] Wynton/ ABC "This Week
>>
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>>> I'm starting to wonder just how much this over exposure of Wynton is 
>>> benefiting jazz vs him......Is it really helping jazz in the views of 
>>> those on this list? He's an articulate and highly informed spokesperson 
>>> for this great music but there are others as well. The name game is 
>>> everywhere now from TV to radio to print publications to the Grammys. If 
>>> you weren't established years ago you don't seem to have a chance in 
>>> hell today regardless of your talent. The other part of this is that at 
>>> least there is someone in a high profile position that can speak about 
>>> the beauty and importance of jazz....to millions of folk.
>>>
>>>  I'll also give Wynton his due......the new CD is fabulous!. The 
>>> writing, vision, recording quality and performances. Top notch.
>>>
>>>  Jae Sinnett
>>>
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