[JPL] SICK OF MARSALIS!

eflash17 at comcast.net eflash17 at comcast.net
Mon Mar 5 22:57:46 EST 2007


Bobby, 

I agree with everything you say, and didn't mean for my post to seem "venemous".  I think his XM show is great.  The one I heard went into great detail about Herbie Hancock's early years and he is one of my Jazz heroes.  I guess my point was only that a show such as that is directed at people like us, people who already know the music.  As silly as it sounds to some, many people don't "understand" jazz and are very intimidated by the likes of us who can talk for hours about the music we love.

- Flash


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From: "Bobby Jackson" <ftapache1 at sbcglobal.net>
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> Peeps,
> 
> There is room for all kinds of jazz presentations on the radio. Wynton is 
> very good explaining the mechanics of the music to the common lay person. 
> Who remembers that splendid series "Marsalis On Music"?  I'm sure without 
> even listening to the XM show it's good.  I also enjoy Jae Sinnett breaking 
> the music down for us all on this list giving us the working jazz musician's 
> point of view.  It makes us all better if we come to this wisdom with an 
> open heart and mind.  If we choose to listen.  In fact, we need more of this 
> kind of discourse.
> 
>  I wasn't too far off the mark with my assertion in my initial post that 
> many jazz people are resentful of all the attention that Wynton receives as 
> illustrated by the venom I've seen on many of these recent posts.  I'm not 
> surprised.  Regardless of how you feel about Wynton, his voice is vital, 
> intelligent and necessary and there are few of us who do it better.  I love 
> his new recording.  What he is saying in this recording is important for 
> everyone to listen to.  His engagement is a result of his love of life long 
> learning and sharing and is at a very high level.  Who remembers his "open 
> letter" after the New Orleans/Katrina disaster?  I didn't see any naysayers 
> in the group or anywhere for that matter.  His convictions are strong 
> because he is strong and that may put some people off.  I don't agree with 
> all of his views (so be it) but he is our generations greatest ambassador 
> for this music.  We still need more advocates and from many areas of our 
> culture, not just jazz based advocates and not just Wynton.
> 
> Keep on doing your thing Wynton.  You're very good at it.
> 
> Aloha,
> 
> Bobby
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <EdBride at aol.com>
> To: <jazzproglist at jazzweek.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 8:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [JPL] SICK OF MARSALIS!
> 
> 
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> > In a message dated 3/5/2007 8:16:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > eflash17 at comcast.net writes:
> >
> > <<..Have any of you heard Wynton's jazz show on XM ??
> >
> > I  heard it once and it was like a 4th year jazz theory class.  He didn't
> > even play songs all the way through.  Great that he featured classic 
> > artists
> > that don't get much exposure nationally, but I think that the casual  jazz 
> > fan,
> > the type that would tune into the shows who post their playlists  here, 
> > would
> > rather listen to the music than be EDUCATED by Mr. Marsalis  "America's
> > Ambassador of Jazz"
> >
> > If you make things complicated people  tend to TUNE OUT..>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Only heard it once, but I appreciated his commentary. If all we wanted to 
> > do
> > was hear music, we don't need a Wynton Marsalis to introduce each number.
> > This was, indeed, like returning to school. And both my wife (much less of 
> > a
> > Jazz fan than I) and I did find it interesting.
> >
> > Ed
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> TED HOWE ''Love Song'':  The third release from Ted invites the listener into a 
> jazz time capsule of love songs.  And as fans and critics alike found with 
> ''Ellington'' and ''Elton Exposed'', Howe's virtuosic piano style and 
> arrangements lead straight to surprise.
> 
> Featuring the great jazz baritone Giacomo Gates and star of stage, screen and 
> television, Lainie Kazan on a couple of tunes, Ted Howe delivers a beautiful 
> recording of masterfully arranged standards (Arlen, Van Heusen, Porter) and 
> originals; a perfect mix of instrumentals and vocals.  
> http://www.summitrecords.com/product.tmpl?SKU=477
> 
> BOB FLORENCE LIMITED EDITION ''Eternal Licks and Grooves'':  Featuring Peter 
> Erskine, Carl Saunders and Scott Whitfield, this all-star big band offers the 
> listener what they have come to expect from the award-winning, legendary 
> bandleader Bob Florence - Sensitive yet powerful arrangements with a HUGE sound 
> that will put you on the edge of your seat.  Spectacular outing!
> 
> Includes ''Eternal Licks and Grooves'' commissioned by ASCAP and IAJE honoring 
> Count Basie and ''Appearing In Cleveland'' commissioned by the LA Jazz Institute 
> honoring Stan Kenton. http://www.summitrecords.com/product.tmpl?SKU=478
> 
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