[JPL] Royalty-Rate Hike Alarms Web Broadcasters

jazzrockworld rick at jazzrockworld.com
Thu Mar 8 12:25:58 EST 2007


Hi Rick,

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on the system - I think they threw
us out, so what more harm is there? As far as making the system more
efficient, I'm not qualified to judge that. It just seems to be damaged
beyond repair to me. All those are feelings based on my observations. 

Regarding rebuilding - sometimes you have to break a few eggs to make an
omelet. Again, just my feelings. 

My heart tells me to fix it because it's the right thing to do, but my mind
says whoa, look around, fix what? Wouldn't making cigarettes that are
healthy for people be just as futile as to try to fix the music industry? 

I know it looks and sounds like doom and gloom, but it's not really. We've
been so brainwashed into thinking what the business model should be, it's
hard to let go. 
 

Rick Calic




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Subject: RE: [JPL] Royalty-Rate Hike Alarms Web Broadcasters

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I hear what you are saying, but for me it is a more worthwhile exercise to
ponder ways to make the current system more efficient than to examine
reasons why it should be torn down.  It's hard for me to argue for the
status quo, on the other hand I think that there are some very positive
things about the way things are.  I'm not advocating for a stay the course
route, but I'm just saying that the wholesale rebuilding of this system
would probably cause more harm than good.

As far as multiple systems are concerned, I'm not sure I get it.

Thanks,

Rick McLaughlin



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> Hi Rick,
>
> There's a lot in what you say. I believe that the spiritual 
> righteousness in what your saying is in fact the way it should be. 
> Unfortunately, the controlling factors are being manipulated by people 
> that have far less integrity and might even be devoid of spiritual 
> righteousness.
>
> I'm not an anarchist, but the system is so corrupt, I don't see how it 
> can be "fixed" without tearing it down. On the other hand, why does 
> there have to be only one system? Creating another system is pretty 
> much where I'm coming from.
>
> There's also another aspect that factors into this. Being a great 
> musician doesn't automatically make someone a great business person. 
> There's been a shaky "understanding" between artists and merchants 
> since the beginning of time. I'm suggesting we switch merchants. The 
> current merchant is a pirate and we all know that just because they 
> pass laws doesn't make them any less of a pirate. It only removes the 
> eye patch and wooden leg, so they don't immediately appear to be 
> pirates.
>
> Rick Calic
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jazzproglist-bounces at jazzweek.com 
> [mailto:jazzproglist-bounces at jazzweek.com] On Behalf Of 
> rick at rickmclaughlin.com
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 8:05 AM
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> Subject: RE: [JPL] Royalty-Rate Hike Alarms Web Broadcasters
>
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> Only if he or she doesn't believe in protection.  The copyright and 
> publishing stuff exists for a reason.  And even though I know that I 
> will never, ever get rich on the music I have written/arranged, when 
> that check for $0.18 comes in, I'll be celebrating.  But without the 
> copyright stuff and the publishing, well it's $0.18 down the tube, 
> along with the inherent protections that come with these things.  In 
> my world it's more a matter of integrity than money; a matter of being 
> responsible on the business side of things in order to protect the 
> creative side of things.  The protections don't do much for a musician 
> at my level (I continue to believe - and perhaps I'm lying to myself - 
> that my 2003 CD took me from being "unknown"
> to "obscure" as an artist), but I still use them.
>
> Rick McLaughlin
>
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>> My bad,
>>
>> There's a lot more to it.
>>
>> On the other hand, a musician can still sell his own music without 
>> copyrights or publishers, can't he/she?
>>
>> Rick Calic
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jazzproglist-bounces at jazzweek.com 
>> [mailto:jazzproglist-bounces at jazzweek.com] On Behalf Of 
>> rick at rickmclaughlin.com
>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 7:21 AM
>> To: Jazz Programmers Mailing List
>> Subject: RE: [JPL] Royalty-Rate Hike Alarms Web Broadcasters
>>
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>> Sorry man, but that's just not true.
>>
>> Rick McLaughlin
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>>>
>>> They only copyright it if they want to get on the RIAA royalty 
>>> bandwagon in case they score a hit, they can have a nice income.
>>>
>>> Those days are pretty much gone for Jazz...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jazzproglist-bounces at jazzweek.com 
>>> [mailto:jazzproglist-bounces at jazzweek.com] On Behalf Of 
>>> EdBride at aol.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 6:40 AM
>>> To: jazzproglist at jazzweek.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JPL] Royalty-Rate Hike Alarms Web Broadcasters
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>>> In a message dated 3/7/2007 8:06:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
>>> rick at jazzrockworld.com writes:
>>>
>>> <<..Stop playing, selling, broadcasting, and  performing copyrighted 
>>> material. Jazz musicians are generally pretty  creative and most are 
>>> very capable of writing and performing their own  material..>>
>>>
>>> But don't composers copyright their own material? Something's 
>>> missing in this formula.
>>>
>>> Ed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> listener into a jazz time capsule of love songs.  And as fans and 
>> critics alike found with ''Ellington'' and ''Elton Exposed'', Howe's 
>> virtuosic piano style and arrangements lead straight to surprise.
>>
>> Featuring the great jazz baritone Giacomo Gates and star of stage, 
>> screen and television, Lainie Kazan on a couple of tunes, Ted Howe 
>> delivers a beautiful recording of masterfully arranged standards 
>> (Arlen, Van Heusen,
>> Porter) and originals; a perfect mix of instrumentals and vocals.
>> http://www.summitrecords.com/product.tmpl?SKU=477
>>
>> BOB FLORENCE LIMITED EDITION ''Eternal Licks and Grooves'':  
>> Featuring Peter Erskine, Carl Saunders and Scott Whitfield, this 
>> all-star big band offers the listener what they have come to expect 
>> from the award-winning, legendary bandleader Bob Florence - Sensitive 
>> yet powerful arrangements with a HUGE sound that will put you on the 
>> edge of your seat.  Spectacular outing!
>>
>> Includes ''Eternal Licks and Grooves'' commissioned by ASCAP and IAJE 
>> honoring Count Basie and ''Appearing In Cleveland'' commissioned by 
>> the LA Jazz Institute honoring Stan Kenton.
>> http://www.summitrecords.com/product.tmpl?SKU=478
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>> TED HOWE ''Love Song'':  The third release from Ted invites the 
>> listener into a jazz time capsule of love songs.  And as fans and 
>> critics alike found with ''Ellington'' and ''Elton Exposed'', Howe's 
>> virtuosic piano style and arrangements lead straight to surprise.
>>
>> Featuring the great jazz baritone Giacomo Gates and star of stage, 
>> screen and television, Lainie Kazan on a couple of tunes, Ted Howe 
>> delivers a beautiful recording of masterfully arranged standards 
>> (Arlen, Van Heusen,
>> Porter) and originals; a perfect mix of instrumentals and vocals.
>> http://www.summitrecords.com/product.tmpl?SKU=477
>>
>> BOB FLORENCE LIMITED EDITION ''Eternal Licks and Grooves'':  
>> Featuring Peter Erskine, Carl Saunders and Scott Whitfield, this 
>> all-star big band offers the listener what they have come to expect 
>> from the award-winning, legendary bandleader Bob Florence - Sensitive 
>> yet powerful arrangements with a HUGE sound that will put you on the 
>> edge of your seat.  Spectacular outing!
>>
>> Includes ''Eternal Licks and Grooves'' commissioned by ASCAP and IAJE 
>> honoring Count Basie and ''Appearing In Cleveland'' commissioned by 
>> the LA Jazz Institute honoring Stan Kenton.
>> http://www.summitrecords.com/product.tmpl?SKU=478
>>
>> Radio and print media promotion by Dr. Jazz, 800-955-4375, 
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> ON YOUR DESK THIS WEEK FROM SUMMIT RECORDS:
>
> TED HOWE ''Love Song'':  The third release from Ted invites the 
> listener into a jazz time capsule of love songs.  And as fans and 
> critics alike found with ''Ellington'' and ''Elton Exposed'', Howe's 
> virtuosic piano style and arrangements lead straight to surprise.
>
> Featuring the great jazz baritone Giacomo Gates and star of stage, 
> screen and television, Lainie Kazan on a couple of tunes, Ted Howe 
> delivers a beautiful recording of masterfully arranged standards 
> (Arlen, Van Heusen,
> Porter) and originals; a perfect mix of instrumentals and vocals.
> http://www.summitrecords.com/product.tmpl?SKU=477
>
> BOB FLORENCE LIMITED EDITION ''Eternal Licks and Grooves'':  Featuring 
> Peter Erskine, Carl Saunders and Scott Whitfield, this all-star big 
> band offers the listener what they have come to expect from the 
> award-winning, legendary bandleader Bob Florence - Sensitive yet 
> powerful arrangements with a HUGE sound that will put you on the edge 
> of your seat.  Spectacular outing!
>
> Includes ''Eternal Licks and Grooves'' commissioned by ASCAP and IAJE 
> honoring Count Basie and ''Appearing In Cleveland'' commissioned by 
> the LA Jazz Institute honoring Stan Kenton.
> http://www.summitrecords.com/product.tmpl?SKU=478
>
> Radio and print media promotion by Dr. Jazz, 800-955-4375, 
> drjazz at drjazz.com
>
>
>
> To become a sponsor contact Devon Murphy at devon at jazzweek.com /
> 866-453-6401 x3 or Ed Trefzger at ed at jazzweek.com / 866-453-6401 x1.
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>
> ON YOUR DESK THIS WEEK FROM SUMMIT RECORDS:
>
> TED HOWE ''Love Song'':  The third release from Ted invites the 
> listener into a jazz time capsule of love songs.  And as fans and 
> critics alike found with ''Ellington'' and ''Elton Exposed'', Howe's 
> virtuosic piano style and arrangements lead straight to surprise.
>
> Featuring the great jazz baritone Giacomo Gates and star of stage, 
> screen and television, Lainie Kazan on a couple of tunes, Ted Howe 
> delivers a beautiful recording of masterfully arranged standards 
> (Arlen, Van Heusen,
> Porter) and originals; a perfect mix of instrumentals and vocals.
> http://www.summitrecords.com/product.tmpl?SKU=477
>
> BOB FLORENCE LIMITED EDITION ''Eternal Licks and Grooves'':  Featuring 
> Peter Erskine, Carl Saunders and Scott Whitfield, this all-star big 
> band offers the listener what they have come to expect from the 
> award-winning, legendary bandleader Bob Florence - Sensitive yet 
> powerful arrangements with a HUGE sound that will put you on the edge 
> of your seat.  Spectacular outing!
>
> Includes ''Eternal Licks and Grooves'' commissioned by ASCAP and IAJE 
> honoring Count Basie and ''Appearing In Cleveland'' commissioned by 
> the LA Jazz Institute honoring Stan Kenton.
> http://www.summitrecords.com/product.tmpl?SKU=478
>
> Radio and print media promotion by Dr. Jazz, 800-955-4375, 
> drjazz at drjazz.com
>
>
>
> To become a sponsor contact Devon Murphy at devon at jazzweek.com / 
> 866-453-6401 x3 or Ed Trefzger at ed at jazzweek.com / 866-453-6401 x1.
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ON YOUR DESK THIS WEEK FROM SUMMIT RECORDS:

TED HOWE ''Love Song'':  The third release from Ted invites the listener
into a jazz time capsule of love songs.  And as fans and critics alike found
with ''Ellington'' and ''Elton Exposed'', Howe's virtuosic piano style and
arrangements lead straight to surprise.

Featuring the great jazz baritone Giacomo Gates and star of stage, screen
and television, Lainie Kazan on a couple of tunes, Ted Howe delivers a
beautiful recording of masterfully arranged standards (Arlen, Van Heusen,
Porter) and originals; a perfect mix of instrumentals and vocals.
http://www.summitrecords.com/product.tmpl?SKU=477

BOB FLORENCE LIMITED EDITION ''Eternal Licks and Grooves'':  Featuring Peter
Erskine, Carl Saunders and Scott Whitfield, this all-star big band offers
the listener what they have come to expect from the award-winning, legendary
bandleader Bob Florence - Sensitive yet powerful arrangements with a HUGE
sound that will put you on the edge of your seat.  Spectacular outing!

Includes ''Eternal Licks and Grooves'' commissioned by ASCAP and IAJE
honoring Count Basie and ''Appearing In Cleveland'' commissioned by the LA
Jazz Institute honoring Stan Kenton.
http://www.summitrecords.com/product.tmpl?SKU=478

Radio and print media promotion by Dr. Jazz, 800-955-4375, drjazz at drjazz.com



To become a sponsor contact Devon Murphy at devon at jazzweek.com /
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