[JPL] Younger people on the radio

Tom Mallison tomthejazzman at earthlink.net
Fri Mar 9 10:03:31 EST 2007


Programming Jazz on the radio should have NOTHING to do with age.  It
should be about the knowledge base of the programmer.  If they know their
stuff and have their act together and like to present that is all that
really matters to me.  Having the skills and tools to program.  If they
don't have the mentioned tools in their arsenal they will find out very
quickly that they can not do the job.....listener support is the real test
of how you are doing as a programmer.  ALOHA  Tom


> [Original Message]
> From: Music-EastWest <musicew736 at earthlink.net>
> To: Jazz Programmers Mailing List <jazzproglist at jazzweek.com>
> Date: 3/9/2007 9:50:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [JPL] Younger people on the radio
>
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> I think what we should ask ourselves is (like any genre).... What exactly
IS 
> jazz? What makes one piece of music "jazz" and a more "modern" 
> version/interpretation Jazz? Jazz is a "feeling" like blues, rock etc...
so, 
> what makes a piece jazz in THIS era? I think that's what needs to be 
> "identified" in order for the generation of THIS era (and our own) to 
> understand... "Who" is making up the rules?
>
> Jazz was a big part of a generation (that we all know) is on it's way off 
> the planet. Jazz was an era, a description of what was happening "at the 
> time".... SO, what is it NOW?
>
> Food for thought. (?)
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <eflash17 at comcast.net>
> To: "Jazz Programmers Mailing List" <jazzproglist at jazzweek.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 11:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [JPL] Younger people on the radio
>
>
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> >
> > Jae -
> >
> > I guess I feel like every jazz programmer brings something different to 
> > the table.  The younger "second generation" jazz-heads like myself may 
> > have a different (and in some people's opinion, less informed)  view of 
> > what falls under the umbrella of "JAZZ" music, but I say the more
people 
> > at the table the better.  Maybe someone listening to my show might get 
> > totally turned on if I play some Grant Green off of "The Final
Comedown" 
> > and take a second look at what they "think" is jazz.  And maybe, just 
> > maybe, they might get turned on enough to dig deep and find out who
Grant 
> > Green is and where he came from and who he played with in his early
years 
> > and what THAT sounded like, which eventually could open up a whole new 
> > world of music to them that they never knew was out there.
> >
> > - Flash
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: Jae Sinnett <jaejazz at yahoo.com>
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> >>
> >> I think the thing with me is what the announcer knows about this
> >> music...regardless of age. I've heard so called young announcers 
> >> mis-pronouncing
> >> names or incorrectly identifying genres simply because they are not 
> >> informed.
> >> "Kind Of Blue" is not an avant garde recording.
> >>
> >>   In a lecture I gave years ago for one of the local university mass
com
> >> departments I suggested that anyone wanting to go on the air as a
"jazz" 
> >> host
> >> should at least take a jazz 101 history course. It's amazing to me in 
> >> that with
> >> most programs the students aren't required to take this course before 
> >> going on
> >> air.  Young for the sake of young isn't good. Knowledge is.
> >>
> >>   The other side of this is that I've heard younger hosts playing what 
> >> many of
> >> the younger listeners embrace as jazz.....the jam band
> >> thing....sampling....etc.....the fundraising drop about 80 percent
during 
> >> the
> >> drive. There's a fine line here to walk...between maintaining the 
> >> integrity of
> >> the music (I'm talking level of artistic performance), developing a 
> >> strong
> >> younger base of listeners with a quality presentation and sustaining a 
> >> necessary
> >> level of $$$ support. Some are doing it but not many.
> >>
> >>   Jae Sinnett
> >>
> >> Linda Yohn <lyohn at emich.edu> wrote:
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> >>
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> Hear, hear for Andy Cook's post on re-vitalizing jazz radio. We have
> >> to develop a new talent pool in hosts! We, of aging ears and
> >> attitudes must listen to what they have to say and what they might
> >> like us to play.
> >>
> >> I caught myself being "old" on the air the other day. I played Tony
> >> DeSare. Then, in my backtag I said "impressive young man". Wrong
> >> thing for me to do. Just shoulda said, "he's got it together", or
> >> something like that. I can't afford to retire right now, so I've got
> >> to stay on the air or at my post at WEMU listening to new trends in
> >> music and getting them out to listeners. I have to be in the momement
> >> for them. Can't let on that I'm not hip. Anyone who fits in to my
> >> demographic (55-ish) should watch out for this tendency to point out
> >> the youngness of an artist. That ages the host. Believe me, I'll
> >> never do that again.
> >>
> >> One thing I'm trying to impress upon WEMU hosts is that today's 30-
> >> something listener doesn't have the time to hear a dj shuffle through
> >> some papers to get information. He or she wants professionalism at
> >> the same level as the music. If we can present good music with
> >> inspired segues...and lots of it....with little rambling dj
> >> chatter....then we can make it with a younger listener who might be
> >> tempted to just stick with the Ipod, etc. If an older host can't
> >> understand that, he or she will have to go. But, because we do know
> >> the music, we can improve on each piece with our segues. A shuffle
> >> Ipod can't program with our heart and intelligence. But, if a host
> >> can't keep up with the times and understand that listener preferences
> >> for the way radio announcers are perceived are changing, then there is
> >> room for new hosts who "get it".
> >>
> >> I'm reviewing an advance or Rachel Z's new CD "Dept. of Good & Evil".
> >> Excellent new music. Modern, yet melodic. I'm excited about Pete
> >> Levin's new disc, too! Tony Levin is the bassist on both of them.
> >>
> >> Hey--while WEMU has a stream, if you can, listen in tomorrow (Friday)
> >> morning at 11AM ET. Rachel Z. will be my guest and we'll premiere
> >> tracks from the new disc. It's official release date is the 13th.
> >>
> >> Back to the original topic on this post--I'm stuck like a dope with a
> >> thing called hope, but I beleive that old dogs can learn new tricks.
> >> It is our survival.
> >>
> >> Linda
> >>
> >> Linda Yohn
> >> WEMU Music Director
> >> lyohn at emich.edu
> >> 734.487.2229
> >> www.wemu.org
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> >> into a
> >> jazz time capsule of love songs.  And as fans and critics alike found 
> >> with
> >> ''Ellington'' and ''Elton Exposed'', Howe's virtuosic piano style and
> >> arrangements lead straight to surprise.
> >>
> >> Featuring the great jazz baritone Giacomo Gates and star of stage,
screen 
> >> and
> >> television, Lainie Kazan on a couple of tunes, Ted Howe delivers a 
> >> beautiful
> >> recording of masterfully arranged standards (Arlen, Van Heusen,
Porter) 
> >> and
> >> originals; a perfect mix of instrumentals and vocals.
> >> http://www.summitrecords.com/product.tmpl?SKU=477
> >>
> >> BOB FLORENCE LIMITED EDITION ''Eternal Licks and Grooves'':  Featuring 
> >> Peter
> >> Erskine, Carl Saunders and Scott Whitfield, this all-star big band
offers 
> >> the
> >> listener what they have come to expect from the award-winning,
legendary
> >> bandleader Bob Florence - Sensitive yet powerful arrangements with a
HUGE 
> >> sound
> >> that will put you on the edge of your seat.  Spectacular outing!
> >>
> >> Includes ''Eternal Licks and Grooves'' commissioned by ASCAP and IAJE 
> >> honoring
> >> Count Basie and ''Appearing In Cleveland'' commissioned by the LA Jazz 
> >> Institute
> >> honoring Stan Kenton. http://www.summitrecords.com/product.tmpl?SKU=478
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> > TED HOWE ''Love Song'':  The third release from Ted invites the
listener 
> > into a jazz time capsule of love songs.  And as fans and critics alike 
> > found with ''Ellington'' and ''Elton Exposed'', Howe's virtuosic piano 
> > style and arrangements lead straight to surprise.
> >
> > Featuring the great jazz baritone Giacomo Gates and star of stage,
screen 
> > and television, Lainie Kazan on a couple of tunes, Ted Howe delivers a 
> > beautiful recording of masterfully arranged standards (Arlen, Van
Heusen, 
> > Porter) and originals; a perfect mix of instrumentals and vocals. 
> > http://www.summitrecords.com/product.tmpl?SKU=477
> >
> > BOB FLORENCE LIMITED EDITION ''Eternal Licks and Grooves'':  Featuring 
> > Peter Erskine, Carl Saunders and Scott Whitfield, this all-star big
band 
> > offers the listener what they have come to expect from the
award-winning, 
> > legendary bandleader Bob Florence - Sensitive yet powerful arrangements 
> > with a HUGE sound that will put you on the edge of your seat. 
Spectacular 
> > outing!
> >
> > Includes ''Eternal Licks and Grooves'' commissioned by ASCAP and IAJE 
> > honoring Count Basie and ''Appearing In Cleveland'' commissioned by the
LA 
> > Jazz Institute honoring Stan Kenton. 
> > http://www.summitrecords.com/product.tmpl?SKU=478
> >
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> > drjazz at drjazz.com
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> ON YOUR DESK THIS WEEK FROM SUMMIT RECORDS:
>
> TED HOWE ''Love Song'':  The third release from Ted invites the listener
into a jazz time capsule of love songs.  And as fans and critics alike
found with ''Ellington'' and ''Elton Exposed'', Howe's virtuosic piano
style and arrangements lead straight to surprise.
>
> Featuring the great jazz baritone Giacomo Gates and star of stage, screen
and television, Lainie Kazan on a couple of tunes, Ted Howe delivers a
beautiful recording of masterfully arranged standards (Arlen, Van Heusen,
Porter) and originals; a perfect mix of instrumentals and vocals. 
http://www.summitrecords.com/product.tmpl?SKU=477
>
> BOB FLORENCE LIMITED EDITION ''Eternal Licks and Grooves'':  Featuring
Peter Erskine, Carl Saunders and Scott Whitfield, this all-star big band
offers the listener what they have come to expect from the award-winning,
legendary bandleader Bob Florence - Sensitive yet powerful arrangements
with a HUGE sound that will put you on the edge of your seat.  Spectacular
outing!
>
> Includes ''Eternal Licks and Grooves'' commissioned by ASCAP and IAJE
honoring Count Basie and ''Appearing In Cleveland'' commissioned by the LA
Jazz Institute honoring Stan Kenton.
http://www.summitrecords.com/product.tmpl?SKU=478
>
> Radio and print media promotion by Dr. Jazz, 800-955-4375,
drjazz at drjazz.com
>
>
>
> To become a sponsor contact Devon Murphy 
> at devon at jazzweek.com / 866-453-6401 x3 or Ed Trefzger at ed at jazzweek.com
/ 866-453-6401 x1.
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