Jim Wilke jwilke123 at comcast.net
Sat Apr 5 22:42:51 EDT 2008

Wow, Lazaro!  That's a bunch of great info about a fascinating time in 
the development of the music.  Thanks for providing it.  I think the 
thing Bix inspired in the melody was that characteristic "rippp" of his 
followed by a descending passage in his solo in "Singin' the Blues".


On Saturday, April 5, 2008, at 04:21  PM, Lazaro Vega wrote:

> One of the earliest recordings I've heard of Stardust was with The
> Chocolate Dandies (Don Redman, 10-13-28) and it is, indeed, taken at a
> quicker dance tempo. I don't think Bix was around and playing much by
> the time it was catching on. Hoagy recorded it with his band in
> October 31, 1927. Mills Music published it in January 1929. And the
> Isham Jones band was the first to slow it down. (The dreamiest slow
> version, perhaps, was by Sarah Vaughn from "No Count Sarah). This info
> is culled from the Indiana Historical Society collaboration with the
> Smithsonian that was issued in 1988: "The Classic Hoagy Carmichael"
> with notes by John Edward Hasse. Bix did record with Hoagy's band,
> including Benny Goodman, Bud Freeman and Bubber Miley in 1930 (the
> session where Venuti infamously sings "Barnacle Bill the Shit Head" in
> the band's vocal refrain). The other number recorded that day was
> "Rockin' Chair."
> I don't think Bix ever recorded "Stardust," though the Wolverines were
> the first band to record Carmichael's music, "Riverboat Shuffle." In
> that era Louis Armstrong owned the piece as a jazz number. His
> recording of it is simply outstanding jazz from his big band period
> (1931). Shaw had the most popular and, according to Gunther Schuller
> and Martin Williams, the most musically successful of the big dance
> band versions. Hoagy made his first vocal version of it in L.A. in
> 1941 for Decca where he recomposes the melody somewhat and whistles
> part of the tune (with Artie Bernstein, bass, and Spike Jones, drums).
> Now isn't the melody to "Stardust" inspired by Bix and the bridge
> inspired by Louis Armstrong (or  vice versa)? I think Bill Charlap
> mentioned that in an interview.
> Lazaro Vega
> Blue Lake Public Radio
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