[JPL] Yoshi's S.F. changes its repertoire

Fredejazz at aol.com Fredejazz at aol.com
Sat Jan 10 15:57:56 EST 2009


Jae, I think you're right, but this started back when high profile artists  
started getting higher fees at big festivals, (a good thing), but priced  
themselves out of the small clubs, ... F Jacobs
 
 
In a message dated 1/10/2009 2:47:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
jaejazz at yahoo.com writes:

"Last  year, jazz stars like Chick Corea and Wayne Shorter played both rooms
over  the course of a week, sometimes featuring different bands. It was  a
promising plan, but the audience wasn't big enough."

My first  thought to this statement was that if these guys don't draw enough 
folks for a  club then the rest of us are toast. Jeez. Then I thought perhaps 
the artists  fee's were too much for the venue. Or the cover charge not high 
enough but  that falls into the too high fee thing. 

I've performed at clubs all  over the place for years and one of the things 
that has happened too often in  jazz are artists...with marquee 
value...charging a fee that in reality is too  high for the venue to pay. Then you have to 
look at the presenter that is  willing to pay that fee. Most in jazz 
unfortunately don't make the return that  is necessary in this situation and what happens 
is the downward spiral of the  venue losing money...then claiming that jazz 
doesn't cut it. I don't hear many  folks talking about this. I truly believe 
that many established artists are  hurting live jazz opportunities and for other 
artists trying to establish  themselves by charging ridiculous fees...ending 
up in many cases with the  promoters or presenters losing money then not 
wanting to book jazz again.  There is a level of greed in jazz believe or not that 
is hurting this  music.  

One thing I learned from Charlie Byrd...I worked with  Charlie for 
years...was that he NEVER over charged to play and the venue he  played in ALWAYS made 
money and brought him back...time after time again.  Charlie knew this and 
consequently worked as much as he wanted and made good  money. It's a theory 
like...well I'll ask for $3000 instead of $7000. Then  $6000 comes in. Enough to 
pay the artists and the venue makes some money. Then  they bring you back for 
$5000. I haven't seem many venues that bring artists  and in many cases jazz 
back...when they lose money. 

Jae  Sinnett   



--- On Sat, 1/10/09, Jazz Promo Services  <jazzpromo at earthlink.net> wrote:

> From: Jazz Promo Services  <jazzpromo at earthlink.net>
> Subject: [JPL] Yoshi's S.F. changes  its repertoire
> To: "jazzproglist at jazzweek.com"  <jazzproglist at jazzweek.com>
> Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009,  1:42 PM
>  http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/01/09/DDK9155U1B.DTL
>  
> Yoshi's S.F. changes its repertoire
> Jesse Hamlin, Chronicle  Staff Writer
> Saturday, January 10, 2009
> 
> Like  everybody else, Yoshi's has been roughed up by the
> recession and  credit
> freeze.
> 
> The Bay Area's premier jazz club,  which opened an
> elegant San Francisco
> venue in late 2007 to  complement its longtime Oakland
> operation, has seen
> its music  and restaurant business drop 20 percent over the
> past year. In
>  addition to losing several hundred thousand dollars, it
> couldn't get  private
> funding to pay off the huge cost overruns on the
>  construction of its
> Fillmore Street project.
> 
> Things  looked pretty bleak until last month, when the San
> Francisco
>  Redevelopment Agency gave Yoshi's - a centerpiece of
> the city's  ambitious
> plan to revive the once-swinging Fillmore District - a  $1.5
> million
> emergency loan. It came on top of a $1.3 million  loan the
> agency gave the
> club in September, and the original  $4.4 million long-term
> loan it provided
> to Yoshi's to develop  the 28,000-square-foot space on
> the ground floor of
> the  Fillmore Heritage Center, a 12-story condo tower that
> also houses  the
> 1300 on Fillmore restaurant and a small jazz museum.
>  
> "We're hanging on, and we're going to hang
> on," said Yoshi's  owner Kaz
> Kajimura. Getting the new loan "was a tremendous
>  relief." He admits that the
> thought of closing one of the locations  had crossed his
> mind, but he was
> encouraged that big crowds  turned out last month at both
> clubs. Kajimura
> expects to pay  off creditors - including some who have
> filed lawsuits
> against  the club - as soon as the city cuts him a check.
> And to bring in  a
> wider audience, Yoshi's is diversifying its musical
> program;  rather than
> showcasing jazz at both clubs, Yoshi's San  Francisco
> will feature a broader
> mix of contemporary and  traditional music from around the
> world, regional
> American  roots music and genre-crossing artists who draw on
> rock, soul  and
> other sounds.
> 
> Last year, jazz stars like Chick  Corea and Wayne Shorter
> played both rooms
> over the course of a  week, sometimes featuring different
> bands. It was a
> promising  plan, but the audience wasn't big enough.
> 
> "It wasn't working.  Yoshi's San Francisco was
> cannibalizing Yoshi's in
> Oakland,"  said Kajimura, who has hired Bill Kubeczko
> from Minneapolis'  Cedar
> Cultural Center to program the San Francisco club. Peter
>  Williams will
> continue booking jazz at the Oakland venue.
>  
> Kubeczko, who programmed a wide range of music and dance in
>  nightlife-rich
> Minneapolis, had been hearing musicians like guitarist  Bill
> Frisell rave
> about Yoshi's for years. "It's got  an
> international reputation," said
> Kubeczko, a 53-year-old  from Chicago who knows his blues
> and jazz but also
> grew up on  the San Francisco sounds of the Dead,
> Quicksilver Messenger
>  Service and Mother Earth. Since moving here a few weeks
> ago, he's  plunged
> into the local music scene, ears open to fresh talent.
>  
> Kubeczko, who wants to shift the programming gradually, has
>  booked the
> Portland-based Irish musician Kevin Burke for Tuesday  and
> the French
> Gypsy-klezmer band Les Yeux Noirs the next  night. Next
> month he's bringing
> in Morocco's Master Musicians  of Jajouka, led by Bachir
> Attar, and Nation
> Beat, a Brooklyn  band that mixes up Brazilian grooves, New
> Orleans funk,
>  Nashville fiddling and whatever else strikes it. Other
> artists he'd  like to
> book for multinight runs include Bruce Hornsby, Doc  Watson,
> the dancing
> Senegalese singer Baaba Maal and the  Langston Hughes
> Project.
> 
> "We're still going to be  doing jazz at Yoshi's
> San Francisco, but it won't
> be the main  focus," said Kubeczko, who aims to widen
> the musical scope but
>  "respect the jazz history of Yoshi's and this
> neighborhood." He wants  to get
> to know the people who run Slim's, the Fillmore, Cafe
>  Du Nord and other
> local venues and work "in the spirit of  cooperation
> rather than competition.
> My hope is that given the  economy, we can all survive and
> flourish."
> 
> E-mail  Jesse Hamlin at jhamlin at sfchronicle.com.
> 
>  http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/01/10/DDK9155U1B.DTL
>  
> This article appeared on page E - 1 of the San Francisco
>  Chronicle
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