[JPL] Experts talk on the state of jazz in Las Vegas

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Fri Jul 17 13:29:25 EDT 2009


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On Jul 17, 2009, at 1:18 PM, Jackson, Bobby wrote:

> JAZZWEEK SUMMIT 2010: JUNE 17-19, RADISSON RIVERSIDE HOTEL,  
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> Love this post Jae!
>
> When I was producing Jazz Tracks I did some food shows by going to  
> restaurants, talking with chefs, with food critics.  They were very  
> popular.  Even going back to my days at CLK I did some food based  
> shows on titles of songs based around food.  Now that I back on air  
> regularly, I'm going to start implementing that again.  It's basic,  
> and it connects everyone who listens because we all like to eat.   
> What more fun can you have than having a great recipe to explore.   
> You might even want to improvise on it!!!
>
> That being said, How many JPL'ers can think of jazz tunes related to  
> food.
> I'll start this train with "Home Cookin" by Lambert, Hendricks and  
> Ross.
>
> Aloha and Bon Apetit!!
>
> Bobby Jackson
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jazzproglist-bounces at jazzweek.com on behalf of Jae Sinnett
> Sent: Fri 7/17/2009 11:59 AM
> To: jazzproglist at jazzweek.com
> Subject: Re: [JPL] Experts talk on the state of jazz in Las Vegas
>
> JAZZWEEK SUMMIT 2010: JUNE 17-19, RADISSON RIVERSIDE HOTEL,  
> ROCHESTER N.Y. -- Mark your calendar!
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>
> The point is interesting Ron in reference to my Chronicles program.  
> Actually, when you thing about it many coming from the generation  
> that would appreciate the Chronicles show have an appreciation...at  
> least in a fundamental sense...of jazz. The reasons I believe are  
> musical.
>
> The soul music of that period had a certain amount of elasticity and  
> swing in the grooves and 'real' instrumental connectedness enabling  
> the sound to get close to what you would here in jazz in terms of  
> the pulse of the music. Plus, in many cases, the improvisation  
> too...considering that many of the earlier soul bands had a  
> tremendous amount of improv...Booker T, EWF, Kool and Gang,  
> TOP...etc. Not too far away from the funkier oriented things Blue  
> Note started doing. It wasn't until the mid to late 70's when that  
> sound and feel in soul/R&B/pop started changing consequently losing  
> that "jazz" connection. The production's focus was now more on  
> synthetic textures and robotic time concepts and wiping out just  
> about all improvisation. The result completely killed much of the  
> human emotional content of the music. Now the music is so far away  
> from jazz that when they do here it the sound is particularly  
> strange and even annoying in many cases. It's
> conditioning.
>
> This is one of my intentions with the Chronicles...reminding them of  
> what a groove is suppose to feel like. A real bass player,  
> drummer...etc. Jazz doesn't sound as strange once you get back to  
> that and I've said repeatedly on this list that folks need that  
> bridge...that reason to make them feel it's worth a shit to come to  
> jazz and once there... convince them it's something that is a  
> profoundly meaningful experience to want to embrace. I've also  
> learned that just telling them they should do it doesn't work.
>
> I make connections as with my example of my R&B Chronicles. I also  
> use food. Food is an amazing way to get folks to jazz. Many may not  
> believe this but it's true. On my Sunday show I open with a recipe  
> and then suggest  some jazz they should listen to when making and  
> eating the dish. It's become by far the most popular thing I do for  
> the station. I also have cooking events for high end donors...they  
> pledge a ridiculous amount of money...minimum $1500...and I go to  
> their homes and cook. I'm constantly making the jazz/creative  
> cooking connection and it's worked in a tremendous way. That bridge  
> I mentioned earlier. I make them see the creative process...that  
> it's really not different in what the jazz musicians do. They're  
> starting to get it. I can't tell you how many folks have emailed me  
> about the recipes that are now listening to jazz when they didn't  
> before. Again, finding ways to make them feel it's totally worth it  
> for them to investigate the music.
> Whatever works right?
>
> Jae Sinnett
>
> --- On Fri, 7/17/09, ron-gill at att.net <ron-gill at att.net> wrote:
>
>> From: ron-gill at att.net <ron-gill at att.net>
>> Subject: Re: [JPL] Experts talk on the state of jazz in Las Vegas
>> To: jazzproglist at jazzweek.com
>> Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 11:24 AM
>> JAZZWEEK SUMMIT 2010: JUNE 17-19,
>> RADISSON RIVERSIDE HOTEL, ROCHESTER N.Y. -- Mark your
>> calendar!
>>
>> ******************************************************************************
>>
>>
>> On Jul 16, 2009, at 6:59 AM, Joseph Baione wrote:
>>
>>    From the outset, I agree, jazz is not the
>> 'only'  true American art form,
>>    and we do not exclude the blues in that
>> statement. But, we have to
>>    find ways to expose young people, that is
>> our future, to the arts as we
>>    know it. If we don't then we are really
>> in trouble in this country for
>>    future generations.
>>    The comments made here by Jae and Bobby
>> are the stories told by
>>    many of us on this list. Ask any artist
>> in jazz how they discovered the
>>    music and the stories will be similar.
>>    Bobby is correct, people come to music in
>> different ways. Young people
>>    pass their music around via their
>> technological devices. Actually no different
>>    than we did, just a different medium.
>>    But, what bothered me about this
>> symposium was that I heard no attempt to
>>    figure out how to get people attracted to
>> jazz, or good music in general.
>>    Yes, Jae, that is a task, to get those
>> listeners engaged, but what has your
>>    R&B Chronicles done to bring people
>> to your program? Do you slip in some
>>    jazz artists to open some of those ears?
>>    Maybe Jazz Week needs to have a
>> discussion on this, but without accepting
>>    the old way of thinking, but finding new
>> ways to expose jazz to the listener.
>>    Ron Gill
>>    singer/consultant
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Does the "smooth jazzer", who wants to expose the
>> young people what was,
>>> understand the true roots of jazz and where it all
>> originated?
>>>
>>> Also, John Naashan is incorrect in saying that "jazz
>> is the only true
>>> American art form."  You most certainly cannot
>> exclude the "blues" in this
>>> statement.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Joe Baione
>>> Jazz Vibraphonist
>>> www.sonicbids.com/brojoebaione
>>> www.joebaione.com
>>> www.myspace.com/brojoebaione
>>> 302-284-1182
>>> jvibeb at comcast.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jazzproglist-bounces at jazzweek.com
>>> [mailto:jazzproglist-bounces at jazzweek.com]
>> On Behalf Of Dr. Jazz
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:55 PM
>>> To: jazzproglist at jazzweek.com
>>> Subject: [JPL] Experts talk on the state of jazz in
>> Las Vegas
>>>
>>>
>>> Interesting comment from the smooth jazzer:
>> "...what jazz was and what
>>> jazz needs to become..."
>>> -Dr.
>>>
>>>
>>> Experts talk on the state of jazz in Las Vegas
>>> Jazz symposium evokes comments about saving jazz as
>> art form
>>> By Jerry Fink (contact)
>>>
>>> Wednesday, July 15, 2009 | 1:47 p.m.
>>>
>>> During a symposium earlier this year, a panel of
>> experts spoke on the
>>> fate of jazz in Las Vegas. Here are some of their
>> comments:
>>>
>>> Vincent Falcone, long-time music director for Frank
>> Sinatra: "I remember
>>> Frank Sinatra once saying to me, 'If you only play the
>> notes, it doesn't
>>> mean a thing.' You've got to have soul, dynamics, ups
>> and downs. That's
>>> what the greatest jazz musicians do naturally,
>> instinctively. ... What
>>> we need today is the support of those of us who really
>> love jazz. Get
>>> out and support the musicians."
>>>
>>> David Loeb, director of jazz studies at UNLV: "This is
>> a jazz town, or
>>> at least it was. I believe it still is. There is
>> certainly an
>>> undercurrent, an optimism for continuing the art form.
>> That's what we're
>>> trying to do at the university -- we're trying to
>> perpetuate the art
>>> form of jazz and also to prepare students to go out
>> and make a living.
>>> Jazz is our cultural art form, and we need to preserve
>> it."
>>>
>>> John Nasshan, drummer and host of a jazz program on
>> KUNV 91.5-FM: "Jazz
>>> is the only true American art form and we don't treat
>> it well. Once you
>>> get involved in jazz at any level, you don't lose the
>> love for it. We
>>> need to support the art form, but we're not doing it.
>> "
>>>
>>> Frank Leone, president of the Las Vegas Jazz Society
>> and Musicians Union
>>> Local 369: "We grew up with songs that easily became
>> accessible to jazz,
>>> but not today. It's all hip-hop, and Clear Channel
>> owns every radio
>>> station in America and it's not going to give you a
>> choice. Today kids
>>> aren't being exposed to jazz till they get to junior
>> high school, and
>>> all of a sudden have a music appreciation class in
>> jazz and classical.
>>> It's too late -- way too late. We have to get them
>> early."
>>>
>>> Dana Crawford, smooth jazz deejay with KOAS 105.7-FM:
>> "If we don't build
>>> a bridge between what jazz was and what jazz needs to
>> become it's going
>>> to die here. We need to find a way for the art form to
>> evolve and become
>>> something people in their 20s and 30s will want to
>> come out and see. If
>>> we don't educate the young about what was and also
>> expose them to what
>>> is, jazz is going to die. It has nowhere to go."
>>>
>>> --Dr. Jazz
>>> Dr. Jazz Operations
>>> 24270 Eastwood
>>> Oak Park, MI  48237
>>> (248) 542-7888
>>> http://www.drjazz.com
>>> SKYPE:  drjazz99
>>>
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