[JPL] valve trombonists & trumpeters

Fredejazz fredejazz at aol.com
Wed Dec 21 13:22:59 EST 2011


The valve sequence of notes is the same, but learning the slide positions takes extra effort. I believe Brookmeyer started on trumpet early on. Personally, I've doubled from trumpet to valve bone, but going back was challenging because of mouthpiece sizes. FJ

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On Dec 21, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Jae Sinnett <jaejazz at yahoo.com> wrote:

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> Mouthpiece may also have something to do with this but not sure. Seems it would be easier to go to a bigger then to a smaller. Hence why we don't see many trombonists coming to trumpet. The physical-ness of playing the trumpet is very different too. How many hernia operations did Maynard have? At least 10 I think but that was a result of "how" he played. I don't think "clef" ranges make much difference in this but that could be a factor too but I doubt this one. Bb to Eb vs Eb to Bb. Steve Wilson is the only saxophonist that prefers to read in "concert" rather that Eb (alto) or Bb (tenor, soprano).
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> Jae Sinnett  
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> arturo at kuvo.org writes:
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> I've  noticed that several trumpeters also play valve  trombone
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> And Ed said:  
> Maynard Ferguson among them. As you suggest, I think it's easier for a  
> trumpet player to adapt to another piston/valve instrument than a slide; but
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> since I play neither, I defer to experts.
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> Ed
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> Multi-instrumentalist James Morrison is an exception to this - here's a
> video ssample:
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JRKnO83P_E
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> It may be that trumpeters who double find it easier to use the vale
> instrument, but a lot of trombonists will double euphonium, a valve
> instrument of the same range as the trombone - in fact in professional
> orchestras, when there is a euphonium part, such as in Holst's suite The
> Planets,  it's usually one of the trombonists who specializes in that (as
> well as bass trumpet).
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> John Simna
> jsimna at wclv.com
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