[JPL] valve trombonists & trumpeters

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Wed Dec 21 13:31:12 EST 2011


No..I have been reading on Brookmeyer since he passed and, if memory serves
correctly, he started on baritone horn and then switched to valve trombone
when a neighbor gave him an  old beat-up model of czechoslovakian origin.
  Gene

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Fredejazz <fredejazz at aol.com> wrote:

>
> The valve sequence of notes is the same, but learning the slide positions
> takes extra effort. I believe Brookmeyer started on trumpet early on.
> Personally, I've doubled from trumpet to valve bone, but going back was
> challenging because of mouthpiece sizes. FJ
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 21, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Jae Sinnett <jaejazz at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Mouthpiece may also have something to do with this but not sure. Seems
> it would be easier to go to a bigger then to a smaller. Hence why we don't
> see many trombonists coming to trumpet. The physical-ness of playing the
> trumpet is very different too. How many hernia operations did Maynard have?
> At least 10 I think but that was a result of "how" he played. I don't think
> "clef" ranges make much difference in this but that could be a factor too
> but I doubt this one. Bb to Eb vs Eb to Bb. Steve Wilson is the only
> saxophonist that prefers to read in "concert" rather that Eb (alto) or Bb
> (tenor, soprano).
> >
> > Jae Sinnett
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: John Simna <jsimna at wclv.com>
> > To: jazzproglist at jazzweek.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:49 AM
> > Subject: RE: [JPL] valve trombonists & trumpeters
> >
> >
> >
> > arturo at kuvo.org writes:
> >
> > I've  noticed that several trumpeters also play valve  trombone
> >
> > And Ed said:
> > Maynard Ferguson among them. As you suggest, I think it's easier for a
> > trumpet player to adapt to another piston/valve instrument than a slide;
> but
> >
> > since I play neither, I defer to experts.
> >
> > Ed
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Multi-instrumentalist James Morrison is an exception to this - here's a
> > video ssample:
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JRKnO83P_E
> >
> > It may be that trumpeters who double find it easier to use the vale
> > instrument, but a lot of trombonists will double euphonium, a valve
> > instrument of the same range as the trombone - in fact in professional
> > orchestras, when there is a euphonium part, such as in Holst's suite The
> > Planets,  it's usually one of the trombonists who specializes in that (as
> > well as bass trumpet).
> >
> > John Simna
> > jsimna at wclv.com
> >
> >
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> > Subject: Re: [JPL] valve trombonists & trumpeters
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 12/21/2011 11:28:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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