[JPL] Zenph "re-performance"

Desert Island Jazz desert.island.jazz at verizon.net
Sat Nov 5 10:04:33 EDT 2011


Thanks, Eric.  I agree that it is a mechanized interpretation...close to the
original performance, and for my ears, a decent re-creation of OP's
recording.

Whenever I do give it some air, it will be with the caveat "it's not the
real thing, folks, and here's why.....".

Dave
WHFC

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Dave... but it is NOT Oscar Peterson's performance....  it is a mechanized
interpretation of what Oscar Peterson did..  (as in a machine, not a live
person, is controlling the piano and making it sound like the original
piece)...   a "really neat" unusual process yes...  to present it as Oscar
Peterson?  I say no.

I remember years ago, as an 8 year old kid, I bought a record off TV; the
"hits" of that time period.  When it arrived I found that none of the music
was the original artists recordings.  It was all renditions done by an
un-named studio band.  I hated that record.  Maybe I'm still bitter about
that!   :)



On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Desert Island Jazz <
desert.island.jazz at verizon.net> wrote:

>
> Sure, I give it some airplay, but initially with an explanation to the
> listeners about the unusual processes involved.  It is still Oscar
> Peterson's performance, and a good one at that.
>
> Dave
> WHFC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jazzproglist-bounces at jazzweek.com
> [mailto:jazzproglist-bounces at jazzweek.com] On Behalf Of Eric Gruner
> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 7:19 PM
> To: jazzproglist at jazzweek.com
> Subject: Re: [JPL] Zenph "re-performance"
>
>
> Very interesting, from a technological standpoint all answers have said
> nothing about the fact that the music is being played by a machine...  not
> a human being.        So....... everyone OK with that?      Who's planning
> to )or planning not to) give it airplay?   (and I'd  love to hear some
> musicians chime in on this)
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 4:08 PM, <EdBride at aol.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > That's about right; another very nice example of this is Tatum's
> > "Yesterdays," around which Gordon Goodwin wrote a big band arrangement.
> >  It's terrific
> >
> > Ed
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 11/4/2011 4:05:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > tom at joelocke.com writes:
> >
> >
> > Louis' answer seems to be the best.
> > I took the photographs  that are used in the tray card (although I
> > haven't received the  finished product yet).
> >
> > My photographs, are from the actual concert that  was recorded, so
> > it's a nice tie in.
> > That concert was in  Rochester, Eric!
> >
> > Here's a link for more  information:http://www.zenph.com/the-music/
> > artists/oscar-peterson
> >
> > Best to all,
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > Tom  Marcello
> > Manager / Joe Locke
> > 5 Windscape Park
> > Pittsford, New York  14534-3200
> >
> > tom at joelocke.com
> > www.joelocke.com
> > (585)721-4722
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On  Nov 4, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Louis Erlanger wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I attended  a Zenph demo a number of years ago. They reproduced an
> > > Art  Tatum
> > > recording. It was fantastic technology. What they did then, and  have
> > > probably improved upon since, is analyze, through software  and
> > > using people,
> > > an existing recording and they log  all of its nuances -- notes,
touch,
> > > rhythm, phrasing, etc.  They  have a piano that is equipped with a
> > > device
> > > that  translates that analysis back to the keys of the piano. So it
> > >  is really
> > > a very advanced player piano that reproduces not just the  notes,
> > > but the
> > > actual way the original player attacked  the notes and approached
> > > the music.
> > > They then record  this piano playing in a recording studio, thereby
> > >  creating
> > > a pristine re-make of the original recording, sans  scratches,
> > > clicks and
> > > distortion.   They may  have since moved this to other instruments
>  too.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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