[JPL] Re: jazz/not jazz, etc.

Mark Rini mark at groovmarketing.com
Thu Jan 12 16:27:13 EST 2012


and a new blog post further illustrating Nick's point..

http://nicholaspayton.wordpress.com/2012/01/12/bam-is-for-people-of-all-races-sexes-cultures-and-colors/

MR

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Louis Erlanger <louisx at myfairpoint.net>wrote:

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> I agree with Mark. There's no race card being played here. It's a FACT
> that jazz was born from African-American culture.   Nobody owns it now, and
> many great jazz players, black, white, Latino, etc. have said that you
> can't own sound and rhythm. It's a tribute to the music that so many
> cultures embraced it.  So let's not shortchange the inventors.
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> I'd suggest following what Nick has been saying a bit closer. Nick never
> said that White people have no validity or did not contribute to this
> music. Here is a direct quote from Nick..
>
> "First, I think we should acknowledge its  origin: Black. But it’s more
> than that. Secondly, it’s also American. Though it is a Black invention,
> without Whites , Latinos , Native Americans, Jews or any of the cultures
> that make America what it is, it would not be possible. And of course
> lastly, it’s music.
>
> To that I say, I am Nicholas Payton and I play Black American Music.
>
> Black American Music was created by Blacks, but it belongs to everyone."
>
> Nick has also  posted many times about his appreciation and admiration for
> Stan Getz and Chet Baker...but that ultimately what they are playing is
> Black Music.
>
> Mark
>
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Scott Whitfield
> <scott at bicoastalmusic.net>**wrote:
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>> <<The Word "Jazz" Will Now Be Racist
>> Henceforth, please refer to the genre as "Black American Music.">>
>>
>> So, the following individuals had NO validity??  Bix Beiderbecke, Frank
>> Trumbauer, Gerry Mulligan, Stan Getz, Zoot Sims, Al Cohn, Carl Fontana,
>> Gil
>> Evans, Bill Evans, Bob Brookmeyer, etc.....
>>
>> Bottom line:  It's HARD ENOUGH trying to make a living playing this music
>> WITHOUT putting MORE limitations on it by playing the race card!
>>
>> I submit that by painting the music into a corner, THEY are being racist.
>> Shame on Nicholas Payton AND Christian Scott!
>>
>> Scott Whitfield Trombonist/Composer/Arranger/**Vocalist (818) 577-8676"Music
>> is a very hard instrument." -- Vido Musso
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