[JPL] Why Americans Don't Like Jazz....

Fredejazz fredejazz at aol.com
Thu Mar 22 13:31:14 EDT 2012


In general, from my perspective as a jazz musician, it looks like the singers are still getting most of the gigs & press. 
Esperanza, Nora Jones, Diana Krall, Jane Monheit et al are wonderful talented artists, for sure. It just looks easier for them to get across. 

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On Mar 21, 2012, at 4:02 PM, "Bob Harrigan" <rharrigan at tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

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> Mel,Awesome,I could not have said it better.I am now in the 80 club as I like to call it.............its good/bad at this age,I still enjoy admiring an attractive woman,but I can't remember why,ha!(just kidding).In recovery from major surgery Jan 9th(Laminectomy/spinal fusion)I now know what pain is.To get back on topic Florida is really bad news,especially for even well established artists (jazz).I thank good people like Phil Woods who helps to give new artists a lift up and also others who helped pave the way for the young lions (Bud Shank,etc.)There is a guy in Philly Larry McKenna as a teacher and he has provided opportunities for the young ones to get gigs.His latest,Profile with Nancy Reed.Best,Bob H.
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> I have read all these answers and I don't have an real answer.
> Abstract this and that. I don't know from abstract formulations.When I was a teenager and went to the Royal Roost and Birdland and heard the Music I loved it. I remember going down the stairs to Birdland and Hearing Jackie Cain singing Euphoria and using a voice as a musical instrument and it moved me.You don't have understand the words to a song but you have to have a sense of rhythm.
> Times have changed and what I hear now is to me is abnormal junk.
> Maybe if they heard more of it they would like it? Most people today can't tell what musical instrument is soloing and don't care.
> I sometimes think that we have made Jazz into something of a sophisticated form that if you are not a aficionado it's not for you.
> I get calls and they like what I'm playing.If it sounds good I play it. It seems to be working
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> Melodious Mel Lipton
> WDNA 88.9 FM in Miami
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> From: georgetfuller <georgetfuller at juno.com>
> To: jazzproglist <jazzproglist at jazzweek.com>
> Sent: Tue, Mar 20, 2012 5:53 pm
> Subject: Re: [JPL] Why Americans Don't Like Jazz....
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>    I have told myself that unless this really hits at home with me that I
> would not respond to opinions from this list // Jazz has been alive for over 100
> years ( in the usa where it was born ) which in itself tells anybody that it has
> always had a strong following // The day that I interviewed Alan Paul (
> manhattan transfer ) we both agreed that jazz is an evolving art form // I
> forgot which famous musician quoted this " the only problem with jazz , is that
> you have to listen to it twice " And it was Art Blakey who said  " no america ,,
> no jazz , that's the way it is // --- geo
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> From: Larry Appelbaum <jumpmonk at hotmail.com>
> To: jazzproglist at jazzweek.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 12:54 AM
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> sorry to disagree, Jae. i find the entire piece to be a weak, unsupported, less
> than persuasive argument. it's laughably naive to make broad swath assertions
> about entire musical cultures based on such flimsy evidence.
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> Larry
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>> Eric...I found this to be a very interesting article. Intriguing
> points...particularly how non english speaking people interpret english speaking
> music. It becomes instrumental to them which helps to condition ears to
> instrumental music. Thanks for sharing this.
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>> Jae Sinnett
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>> From: Eric Gruner <eric at jazz901.org>
>> To: jazzproglist at jazzweek.com
>> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 9:56 PM
>> Subject: [JPL] Why Americans Don't Like Jazz....
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>> Why Americans Don&rsquo;t Like Jazz  -    Dyske Suematsu  &bull; September
> 17, 2003
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>> The current market share of Jazz in America is mere 3 percent. That
>> includes all the great ones like John Coltrane and the terrible ones
>> like Kenny G (OK, this is just my own opinion). There are many
>> organizations and individuals like Wynton Marsalis who are tirelessly
>> trying to revive the genre, but it does not seem to be working. Why is
>> this? Is there some sort of bad chemistry between the American culture
>> and Jazz? As ironic as it may be, I happen to believe so.
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>> Read the full article at http://dyske.com/paper/778
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>> Eric Gruner
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